Sunday, April 1, 2012

Do you know the origins of your dog


Do you know the origins of your dog?
Some people on here seem to think that getting a pedigree purebreed is better than a mutt. DID YOU KNOW? All dogs started off as mutts or wild dogs with no pedigrees or breed definition. They were just dogs. From these mutts people started the breeding process and bred certain mutts together to create the over 100+ breeds we know today. Lets look at one of my favourite breeds of dogs that I have owned: The Australian Kelpie. The birth of the kelpie breed: 2 working english collie dogs came over to Australia on a ship from Britain. While on the ship the dogs (named Jenny and Brutus) mated. Jenny whelped a litter of pups & one of the pups was eventually mated to a local mutt bi-tch of notable working ability called 'Kelpie'. Soon everyone wanted a 'Kelpie' as they proved to be great working dogs. Moral of the story: The Kelpie originated from 2 'mutts' on a ship. THE QUESTION IS: What is the history of your dog? What 'mutts' were bred to make your dog the breed it is today? More Examples: The 2 breeds used to create the Miniature Pinscher, was the smooth coated Dachshund and the Italian Greyhound. The lab came from a mix of Newfoundlands and small water dogs that were in the area. The Laekenois are one of the breeds that was used to develop the Bouvier. btw: rant or rave if you must - history doesn't lie and I don't care for nasty opinions - no skin off my back bahaha :P
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Yawn. I already know all of this. I used to call my dogs "pedigree mutts" for a reason you know. Oh and the Miniature Pinsher was developed by 3 breeds...Dachshund, Italian greyhound and German pinscher. Pincher is "terrier" in German. While the Labrador is native to Newfoundland, the ancestors were brought from Labrador on English ships. Those dogs were crossed with setters and retrievers. I've a yorkie and in the past I've have numerous other "purebred dogs" such as Rat terriers, goldens, and labs. The breed is only 100 years old or so, but its origins are not entirely certain - probably because the working men of north England, who developed the Yorkshire Terrier for catching the terrible rats that infested the mine shafts and as a hunting dog that could penetrate into badger and fox burrows, avoided divulging the secret of their success to those who might have cashed in on a lucrative side line. However, it seems likely that Scotsmen seeking work in the woolen mills of Yorkshire brought with them various types of terrier, including the Skye and the now extinct Clydesdale. These were then crossed with local types, such as the long- haired Leeds Terrier. The Maltese, Black & Tan Manchester, and Dandie Dinmont Terriers may also have contributed blood lines. At first, the Yorkie was a much bigger animal than the one we see today, but by selectively breeding the smallest individuals, the dog was gradually miniaturized over the years. They were made into a fashion dog. Women carried these little dogs in their bags and under their arms. The first Yorkshire, with the characteristics demanded by its standard today, appeared in a dog show in 1870. Named by the perceptive Teddy Roosevelt, the Rat Terriers were developed in Great Britain originally from Smooth Fox Terriers and Manchester Terriers in 1820. They were brought to the USA in the 1890's. At that time they were all their original color of black and tan. Life Magazine showed President Roosevelt with three black and tan Rat Terriers. American breeders crossed them again with the Smooth Fox Terrier as well as the Beagle and Whippet. The Beagle increased bulk, trailing and hunting ability, along with the red color. Whippet contributed the speed and agility and probably the blue and brindle colors. The smallest variety was derived from the Smooth Fox Terrier and Chihuahua. I'm to lazy to write anymore about the two breeds and I'm not going to go on to the other dogs I've owned. I'll add that the breeds we know of today were bred for a purpose. I rant about designer breeds- purposely created mutts- for no other reason other then the fashion statement and quick money by back yard breeders. I have nothing against any breed of dog or mutts, its what people breed that I have problems with- back yard breeders mainly.
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OMG!! how do you breed a dachshund and an Irish wolfhound?? that's kinda impossible isn't it???
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The Dalmatian is widely accepted as orginiating from the Croatian coast of Dalmatia. Previously, Yugoslavia was recognized by the F.C.I. as the country of origin of the Dalmatian; the breed had been developed and cultivated chiefly in England. When the dog with the distinctive markings was first shown in England in 1862 it was said to have been used by the frontier guards of Dalmatia as a guard dog. But nothing is definitely known about its origin. Dalmatians are a very old breed, often thought to be the very first type of dog for which man made deliberate attempts to selectively breed for specific characteristics. These characteristics were at first appearance, then other attributes such as stamina, endurance, and health. The result is a very prolific and long-lived breed of striking appearance, generally free from ailments common to other dogs such as hip dysplasia (almost unknown in purebred Dalmatians).
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No history doesn't lie but what's going on today is hugely different than what went on to make the breeds we know and love today. Breeds used to be mixed with purpose for creating a new breed with a specific purpose that breeds true (thus why they are purebreds- Breed X bred with Breed X is always going to have a puppy that looks like breed X and not Breed A, B, or C). Stud books were kept, breed standards were set, health testing was done, and in general people actually cared about more than making a buck. A great example of how to actually try and get a new breed accepted in a kennel club is the American White Shepherd Association (I don't care if you agree with them or not, but you have to admit their going about it well). A great example of how to not do it is breeding two purebreds and giving the pups some stupid designer name when pups in the same litter even have unpredictable characteristics (An example is the "labradoodle" that can have any poodle characteristic, any lab characteristic, or any mixture of the breed characteristics and doesn't accomplish anything another breed isn't already bred for). If these backyard breeders honestly cared about making a new breed they would be working together to make a new breed. As for breed origins, I'm wondering where you got most of your information (Remember Wikipedia is not a reputable source). Breeds take a very long time to establish and one mutt being born, or even 100 mutts of the same mix being born do not make a breed.: The Australian Kelpie is thought to come from a few different types of sheep dogs and even possibly some Dingo blood and started out in the 1800s (not to be considered a breed until the 1990s). The story you're referencing is thought to be a legend and regardless those pups looked nothing like a modern day Kelpie. The Miniature Pinscher is thought to have been bred from the Dachshund, the Italian Greyhound, and possibly even the short-haired German Pinscher with documentation being over 200 years old. Labs started out from Newfoundlands.... in 1878 and were accepted as a breed first in 1903: As for my breed Australian Shepherds not a lot is honestly known about the breed's origin. The registries started showing up around the 1940s though the breed wasn't actually accepted as an AKC breed until the 90s. It's known Aussies originated in the United States and most accounts seem to believe they have Basque origins in Spain with the herding dogs they brought up. Aussies were specifically bred to be a well rounded and weather adapted loose to medium eyed herding dogs, and experience shows me that their dang good at their job. Working with different herding breeds I can tell you exactly why I choose them to work with again and again compared to other "similar" herding breeds- Including the Border Collie who will never take a day off and uses all it's energy in run one, the collie which is too high up for cattle work and too slow for long horse back rides in summers, and the German Shepherd who has American bred lines that can't half work these days.
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The origins of Siberian huskies is unknown. So yeah...... Well, I do know that they came from the Chukchi people. But breed-wise nope, no idea.
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Translation..........."My mind is already made up;don't confuse me with the facts". REAL breeds take hundreds of years of selective breeding & culling,not nine weeks in some jerks backyard. MILLIONS of people are educated & can tell quality stock from a street-dawg mongrel. This is a waste of time & deliberate ignorance & reverse-snobbery is an unattractive bore.